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Published on April 11, 2006 By DJBandit In Current Events
Law: legal document setting forth rules governing a particular kind of activity; "there is a law against kidnapping".
Crime: A crime in a broad sense is an act that violates a political or moral law. In the narrow sense, a crime is a violation of the criminal law.

Criminal: someone who has committed (or been legally convicted of) a crime.

It seems clear to me that a violation of a law is a crime and he who violates the law is a criminal. So why are there so many people making protest claiming that illegal immigrants should not be considered criminals?

Let’s see, say a person was driving at 60 MPH on a highway with a speed limit of 55 MPH. A speed limit is the maximum speed allowed by law for vehicles on a road. So that would mean that person is breaking the law. But what difference could 5 MPH make when driving 55 MPH could still kill you in an accident? It does not matter, it’s the law and that’s the point.

What about a nice old lady carrying a concealed weapon illegaly, she fears getting robbed or murdered or raped. Weapon possession, as a crime, consists of that circumstance in which a person who is not legally authorised to carry a concealed weapon is found in possession of such a weapon. But a person with a licence to posses a concealed weapon could still hurt innocent people. It doesn’t matter, it’s the law.

What about J-walking, or not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign, or having sex with a 17 year old that will be 18 in 2 days, or buying marijuana? All these crimes sound silly to convict someone of, I mean look at how many people J-walk and don’t get in trouble, and why should you stop completely at a stop sign when you can plainly see there is no one coming in the other direction, and whats the big deal with having sex with a girl who will be 18 in 2 days which will make her legal anyways and why is pot a bad thing?

Get my point? It’s still a law and it’s still a crime to violate it. I am 99% (cause nothing is perfect) sure most people would not hesitate to want someone criminally charged for something as stupid as these crimes I listed above if it involved and harmed them in some way.

No matter how you slice it, crossing the border illegally is a violation of a law, it’s intentionally violating it regardless of reason, and violating a law is a crime and those who commit crimes are criminals, plain and simple.

I am not cold hearted, I too feel for those who are poor and just looking for means to survive. I may not been poor like those who cross the border, but I too have found myself in very bad situations where breaking a law was not off the table as a means to fewed my family, but I never did, I always found ways to get myself out of the dilema.

One last things, what the deal with bringing up those who came to this country without any papers when we first arrived in the US over 200 years ago, as I saw someone mention on TV as part of a protest? Back then there were no immigration laws like today so I don't see how any of this can relate to todays illegal immigration problem. Maybe someone can explain this to me. I'm all ears.

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on Apr 11, 2006
I think that you make a valid point, but that is the exact reason why throwing around the word "criminal" is too much. I've broken the speed limit, on more than one occasion. So that makes me a criminal, too. And I'm pretty sure you have, as well. Unless you can honestly tell me that you've never broken a law in this country, then it's just a case of the pot calling the kettle black .
While I think that the system needs a serious fixing, I don't honestly believe that name-calling is going to get it done. Or are you not a criminal in any way, shape or form?
on Apr 11, 2006


He who is without sin among you, may cast the first stone.

I am by no means a saint. I already have a criminal record for driving without a licence. And I won't deny having taking what is not mine in the past. I am ashamed of those things but I also learned well from them.

I understand the whole -throwing around the word "criminal"- thing, it may be used way too often, but it doesn't refute the fact that it's still a crime and those committing it are criminals. I only wish to point it out in the sense of making sure we don't protect these people as if they have not done anything wrong when they have. I myself can't stand it when I call the police to complain about people speeding in an area where children play and speed limits are low only to have see the cars still speeding and no one get in trouble.

I agree the system does need some fixing, and I don't mind making it a big easier for them to cross legally, I'm all for helping them. I'm also all for punishing those companies who use them illegally as well regardless if they lose business and end up closing their doors. I will not condone criminal acts in order to keep a business afloat. They should have never messed around with it in the first place.

The funny things is that I don't see it as name calling. It is the truth. The problem is those people who use the idea of name calling as their weapon to fight for those illegal immigrants. It's only name calling if your point is to insult, annoy and/or attack vocally. Otherwise it seems that the best way to describe these people who don't like the word criminal is how Jack Nicholson said in A Few Good Men "You can't handle the truth".
on Apr 11, 2006
:Law= something the right MUST OBEY.

LAW= something the left obeys when it's convenient.
on Apr 12, 2006
#3 by Moderateman


Bingo, you are the winner.

I guess it's true what some say, "laws were ment to be broken".
on Apr 12, 2006
Old truism follows;

"There is nothing against the law.....until you get caught".
on Apr 12, 2006
#5 by Dynosoar


Darn, I was trying to remember that to post it. Thanx for reminding me.

Many people here say that a drivers licence is just an excuse to avoid a ticket. Do you really need the licence itself to drive? I mean, there are so many people out there driving without a licence and seem to do good enough not to get caught, yet there are so many with licences that get caught way too often.